Comments on: Survey Results: The Java EE Container Redeploy & Restart Report – measuring Turnaround Time

By: AB

AB — Thu, 04 Nov 2010 18:38:00 +0000

You’ve never had to write truly enterprise-scale applications. When you do, you’ll find that WL and WS scale exceptionally well and the freebies are lacking. For SMB scenarios, though, you can generally get by with freebies.

By: Mike

Mike — Wed, 29 Sep 2010 19:29:00 +0000

Products from IBM / Oracle offer things like “support contracts” which can kind of come in handy during crisis situations for web applications that are actually business critical, guy.

By: modular homes

modular homes — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 13:36:55 +0000

Last year we ran two surveys asking developers how much time they spend … Given that, the averages should apply pretty nicely to Java EE development!

By: melbeltagy

melbeltagy — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:42:34 +0000

We’re using Websphere and we don’t redeploy at all. We run in debug mode, using RAD from within our workspace.
Whatever changes happens are deployed automatically by WAS for Java classes and JSPs. Even for EJBs.
We only have to restart the server if we change an EJB’s method’s signature, which is rarely.
Restart time takes about a minute or two, max. Is that an issue? Of course not.

By: melbeltagy

melbeltagy — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:42:00 +0000

By: Denis Robert

Denis Robert — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 10:48:13 +0000

@searchfull: Ever work with Websphere? 10 seconds doesn’t even get you past the first steps in deployment. Deploying on websphere has sometimes taken me up to half an hour, for something I would consider a smallish app. Even with perfect optimization, you’d be lucky to get your deploy time under 5 minutes.

Not to mention the number of times a clean restart is required, even though IBM would like you to believe it never is…

By: Denis Robert

Denis Robert — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 10:48:00 +0000

Not to mention the number of times a clean restart is required, even though IBM would like you to believe it never is…

By: George

George — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 10:43:45 +0000

So those who choose Weblogic and Websphere not only choose to pay Oracle/IBM instead of get free software, they choose to waste developers’ time as well. The good old fashioned “choosing IBM won’t get you fired” turns out to be irresponsible incompetent choice. These companies deserve to suffer…..

By: George

George — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 10:43:00 +0000

By: searchfull

searchfull — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:58:22 +0000

If your compile-deploy cycle lasts more than 10 seconds, you’re doing it very wrong. Make your war smaller and more modular, use a IDE plugin for deployment, use lazy initializations, and separately-deployed resource pools.